Handling Crisis: The Anxious-Avoidant Clash

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Melissa and Drew share breakthroughs from their therapy work with Julie Menanno while navigating a real crisis: one twin slams his brother's hand in a door, forcing a frantic hospital trip Melissa handles alone. When she reaches out to Drew, they fall into a classic anxious-avoidant clash—she needs immediate validation, while he wants to process later. As Melissa battles feelings of failure, they use the tools from therapy to break their negative cycles and reconnect.

Key takeaways

  • In a crisis, the anxious partner often needs emotional validation immediately, while the avoidant partner prefers to process once emotions have cooled.
  • Waiting to address an issue can leave the anxious partner feeling dismissed, which deepens disconnection.
  • Under stress, Melissa spirals into shame—feeling like a failure as a mom and wife.
  • Naming the anxious-avoidant pattern in the moment helps couples interrupt it instead of escalating.
  • Progress is possible even in the hardest moments when both partners lean on their therapy tools.

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Julie Menanno MA, LMFT, LCPC

Julie Menanno, MA is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, and Relationship Coach. Julie operates a clinical therapy practice in Bozeman, Montana, and leads a global relationship coaching practice with a team of trained coaches. She is an expert in Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) for Couples and specializes in attachment issues within relationships.

Julie is the author of the best-selling book Secure Love, published by Simon and Schuster in January 2024. She provides relationship insights to over 1.3 million Instagram followers and hosts The Secure Love Podcast, where she shares real-time couples coaching sessions to help listeners navigate relational challenges. Julie also hosts a bi-weekly discussion group on relationship and self-help topics. A sought-after public speaker and podcast guest, Julie is dedicated to helping individuals and couples foster secure, fulfilling relationships.

Julie lives in Bozeman, Montana, with her husband of 25 years, their six children, and their beloved dog. In her free time, she enjoys hiking, skiing, Pilates, reading psychology books, and studying Italian.

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